Every thing goes in smooth. The 170/225 slant 6 is an G/RG engine and the 273/318/340/360 are A/LA engines. also, I got a A-833 o/d too, it'll handle about 300hp, so anything over a stock 318, and you'll need a 8 3/4 rear end to handle the power. JavaScript is disabled. Even better: if you can take a couple of pictures of your existing engine compartment I can see if there anything else I may have forgotten. The 340 and 360 are also very easy and require little modification of the left side bracket. View All. i fond out later that an m body k is the same as an f body k member. Small Block Positive battery cable and neutral safety switch harness. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Just a matter of getting the engine and bellhousing. This intake is 4" taller and I don't think there's going to be a loop. Swapping a 6 cyl. You'll be ready when you want to go SB to BB then Oh, if your switching from a 727 - a 904, a small rear to a larger one, youll need to get your driveshaft cut down Or lengthened depending on your route. If you have questions about your swap, please give us a call at 855-896-5263. I want to put the 318 into my D100 and keep the 4 speed. Location. i did that swap. Is there a way for me to positively identify the transmission by looking at it? 73 Roadrunner 318 w/ 440 swap. In doing the /6-V8 swap, I have used both kits. The front end work looks scary but isnt. A person might still be able to use them. No conversion kit or anything. Don't dive in until you have most all the parts you will need. Jul 21, 2021 #2 Aspen500 Well-Known Member. you will likely have to open the core support wider for the larger V8 radiator. I'm dry fitting my 318 block to my 72 k frame. and one things not right. The 318 is a rebuild and the 87 Ram is just too rusty to let that 318 waste. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. i used a904 with manual reverse valv bodyand tci 3500 converter. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Build it for speed, and it can put a lightweight car into the 12-second quarter-mile range. There are three basic questions to be asked. A 76, I would put valve seals in it and mabe a timing chain set. Ok, so it doesn't matter if its a 904 or 727, but I will need a small block tranny to go with the engine, correct? I think I might just stay with the six for now. Headers and bracket kits are designed specifically for your Charger, Dart, Cuda, Challenger, Valiant, and many others. There is nothing more disheartening than too much camshaft, not enough converter, no vacuum, too much gear to make the cruises, overheating, and miserable driving tendencies. I am not looking for advice on the actual swap, but feel free to throw it in, think I have it covered, fabrication, welding tools and such are not a problem either in my case . to 318 8 cyl. Just doing some parts lookup.looks like the V8 clutch is a 10.5" 23-spline set up. . http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?17287-Your-Guide-to-the-727-904-transmission, http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showpost.php?p=81058&postcount=46, http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showpost.php?p=81407&postcount=52. Includes: (2) Polyurethane GM Motor Mounts. Its an automatic.. just so there's no more confusion about that. The 5.9 Magnum V8 engine was Mopar's revision of the LA 360 V8 engine and the newer design contains numerous improvements over its predecessor. A basic LA 318 should work too. When I refer to the brackets and insulators I am referring to the steel piece that bolts to the engine, and the rubber motor mount. just changed a 6 to a 318, 74 duster,have a 8,25 rear end, didnt want to change k member, used shumacher mounts,requires drivers side motor mount to be shortened, and a 9/16 hole to be drilled,template comes with mounts, used a 904 from small block,drive shaft worked that came with 6 ,,,you add 180 lbs by going 318, but i used a aluminum intake and headers which removed nearly 100 lbs,all they recommend to change is shocks, and according to headers you have to change the steering arm to a v8 car, it has a curve , the 6 cylinder is straight arm. Hi guys I got the use of my brother's computer and I need to ask a question. The truck has a 6 inch suspension lift and a 3 inch body lift with Mickey Thompson tires on it. Had an exhaust shop weld in a new exhaust for a couple hundred bucks. by jopa Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:57 pm, Post Add to Wishlist. It does well enough empty, but when pulling a trailer or with a load in the back it doesn't like hills. Install a 273/318, or 340/360 with our spool mount conversion that positions a V8 engine to factory specs on your original '73 and up A, B, F, M, J-Body (and '74 & up C-Body) Slant 6 K-member. Both modifications will make your current wheels usable. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Actually the 6 Throttle cable works fine. Example: a '66 Charger with a 318 can become a 383 or 440 car with relative ease. They have the 19.75" cable and also a 19.25" cable. Note: The mounts can be shifted somewhat front-to-back (to allow the transmission mount to align with the transmission mount crossmember) and . Engine Conversion and Replacement Kit. Big blocks can be installed in the later A-bodies by using the 383 K-member, brackets and insulators. Make your engine swap easier with this motor mount swap set. i currently have a 73 duster with a slant six and a904 tranny. Research it. 33293 Views 18 Replies 14 Participants Last post by Swampwalker3, . Any reputable machine shop can handle that (cheaper than scouring for another bellhousing). '61-'71 Dodge Sweptline Truck Online Community, Post I don't plan on getting a v8 k frame, and I kinda figured I'd need a bigger radiator but didn't know what size. Is this a bolt in swap or is it more??? i am not sure about standard trans swaps. While big changes have been happening with Schumacher Creative Services, we are excited to continue to provide the same quality and innovation you expect! They're about $20. I've done two /6 - sb and one /6 - big block. The biggeraxle is also going to be 8.25-8,75, with 5X4.5 bolt pattern. I do plan on keeping the a230 for at least the time being. OER MA2264A 1973-76 Fits Mopar A-Body Fits V8 318 Repl Radiator. $796.94. Continue with Recommended Cookies. I plan on changing that in the future as well. 1973-74 Mopar A / B-Body Slant 6 To B/Rb Big Block Engine Motor Mount Swap Set. You have lots of options for kickdown including Lokar cables or even using easy to find 318 2bbl kickdown (yes, it will work with a 4bbl pretty easy). Mar 12, 2010 My 82 Utiline has a slant 6/A833 combo in it. This makes engine swaps very easy, if you have a V-8 K-member. it was pretty easy everything bolted up. 79 aspen slant six to a 360/360 horse mp crate motor. It might hold up behind a mild 318 but I'd plan on eventually replacing it with an 8.25" rear axle. A forum community dedicated to all Dodge owners and enthusiasts. they are the same. You must log in or register to reply here. Did your desired combination ever exist? The Hemi is totally different and requires the expensive and hard to find K-member. For the most part at least. Ram Year. It's definitely not a bolt in deal. both of which use the big block bolt pattern. using a Slant 6 distributor and a flathead dizzy shaft . 1967-72 Dart, Duster, Valiant, etc. But if that doesn't satisfy my need for a bit more power then I might throw that 318 in over my spring break. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Secondly, with that transmission work with a 318? The best setup for a Slant 6 would be a set of Molnar long rods and a matching set of Wiseco pistons, but running those would cost about $1,200 in parts. Lol, 1st you prob. Convert the ignition with a conversion kit while your swapping things. A truck oil pan and pickup. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Install a 273/318, or 340/360 with our spool mount conversion that positions a V8 engine to factory specs on your original '73 and up A, B, F, M, J-Body (and '74 & up C-Body) Slant 6 K-member. The 8 1/4 rear will hold up to a street 318. i have a 73 plymouth duster, with a slant six, 3spd auto im pretty shure its a 904 trans, and a 8 1/4 rearend, will a 318 bolt right in to the transmission, please help,, i was going to get those shumacker small block conversion motor mounts so thats taken care of You need a k-frame front end from a V8 car. Trucks use a rear sump, not sure about vans. 3.9 tbi to 5.9 carb, 2wd. WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm - www.P65Warnings.ca.gov. 1973-74 Mopar A / B-Body Slant 6 To B/Rb Big Block Engine Motor Mount Swap Set. It is currently a 225 slant with a 2bbl carb and an A230 3 speed manual trans on the floor with a 7.25 rear and a 2.76 gear. There's a good chance the car has a 7.25" axle if it was a slant 6 car. Oct 2, 2004 Hi guys I got the use of my brother's computer and I need to ask a question. both of which use the small block bolt pattern. Ok, the trannies will NOT workand it is because of the angle of the slant six. There are some easy swaps that require no K-member change. The /6 trans won't work. Replies 22 Nate Breece :gr_patrio 1994 B250 Ram Van Conversion by Elk 5.2L Magnum 2008 Grand Caravan SXT 3.8L Member of: The Engine should be the same as any truck or car 318, but I think you might need a different bellhousing pattern, unles you are keeping the tranny from the van too. MSRP $175.99 set. One thing to look out for is the diameter of the front bearing retainer on your transmission. In particular a Chrysler Flathead 6 (in my case a stock 251) to a SB Chrysler (in my case a LA 318) engine swap. 1967-72 A-Body V8 273/318 Replacement or Upgrade Kit. 1978 W150 Ex Cab 360 2bbl/727/NP203/D44-8.25, swap oil pan to truck, dont forget to change the dip stick too, engine mounts change to truck, change water pump to trucks, radiator inlet is on the wrong side change it over to trucks, the ecm or computer I think it worked but change it over too, hoses , trans swap it over to A casting , starter is the same, alt is the same , get the pulleys and brackets, throttle cable is a little long swap it over . But there are seemingly 2 issues. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Whatever your goals, building and modifying a Slant Six is a lot of fun. except i had an auto. GM LS Engine to Small Block Chevy Chassis. Manage Settings Thanks. The trans if it's. Only the Hemi requires special pieces. I have a 1980 Volare Duster and recently decided I want to do a slant six to 318 swap. I lost the folder that had all of the details on throttle cables. Rock Auto is one source. To eliminate this problem, the driver's side engine mounting perch needs to be drilled with 9/16" holes and excess material must be removed. Swap out your Slant 6 for a B/RB big block V8 power-plant with this engine swap set. As said, the BB mopar bellhousings are mech. Thanks for the info guys. 1966-74 Mopar B-Body 1967-76 Mopar A-Body 1970-74 Mopar E-Body Dakota Holley Gen III HEMI Swaps 1972-1993 Pick-up & Ramcharger Gen III Swaps Holley Terminator-X Gen III Hemi Systems Gen III Hemi Mounts / Brackets Gen III Hemi Mopar Crate Engine Installation Parts; Also I figured the wiring harness would have to be remade so that's no biggy. First of all, what transmission came stock in a 74 Duster slant six car? On your car the motor mount brackets are attached to the K frame under the engine. All it took was a new bellhousing, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate. Daniel Defense firearms, parts and accessories. I've used the trans-dapt kit on my Dart, everything bolted in nice and the engine placement was in the right spot. 1967-72 Mopar A-Body Slant 6 To 340Ci / 360Ci Small Block Motor Swap Mount Set. Come join the discussion about Hemis, RAM trucks, Mopar performance, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! if i had it to do over again, i would use simply swap the k member. Ideally the swap kit. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The slant six transmissions are different from the v-8 ones, as well as the small block trannys are different from the big block ones. rumblefish360 said: If the K is fine, leave it alone. the only things i did with the 318 was header,vc(for the oil cap)dip stick & tube from the other trans. Oct 9, 2017 #2 BudW Moderator Staff member Joined Mar 4, 2012 318. Just make sure transmission cooler lines to not rub anything or each other! Transmission - If you go 727, the shift linkage you have will work, but the slant 6 kickdown will not. At 59.2 . I have a 1984 Dodge Ram Prospector with a blown 318 in it. linkage. Trans-Dapt Performance Engine Swap Motor Mounts 4695 Motor Mounts, Engine Swap, Complete Mount, Bolt-In, Steel/Rubber, Black/Black, Dodge, Plymouth, Slant 6 to V8, Kit Part Number: TRD-4695 ( 9 ) Estimated Ship Date: Monday 2/27/2023 $70.99 Add To Cart Compare Wish List Pioneer Automotive Motor Mounts 602250 When you take out your Z-bar do not lose/throw away or break those little red bushings. i even used the gran fury ac compresssor because the 6 cyl ac is not the same. Hardware. A third alternative, though it requires more skill, would be to cut the ears off the slant 6 subframe and weld them in the location for the V8. You have to use a small block v-8 transmission. Product # MM52313. $692.99. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It would be best to have a parts car to access for those things you miss. Thanks Guys! Use the TransDapt kit if there is one. These K frames can be hard . Manage Settings . The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Hi there! 3. Check if this part fits your vehicle . Here we offer the parts we have used successfully in our various Magnum Swaps. Also, aside from that, the mounting locations seem to be too wide. Ok I understand now thank you. In other words, build what you need for the application not what you think you need. The Slant-Six head can safely withstand a 0.100 thousandths deck cut. 5.9 Magnum powered Dodge Dart with the wheels up! I'm basically trying to keep my costs as minimal as possible. Use the brackets and insulators from a 273 and bolt in a 273, or 318. Joined Feb 14, 2015 Messages 6,446 Reaction score 2,253 Location There is a member here F body Deconstructor Jim. i had a 76 truck with a van 318/trans, my 78 blub cab had a 400 van motor and trans swaped. What's the difference between the 22 and the 26 when it comes to performance for a 318, Ok just to get an idea, would you be willing to sell me a 26 and the brackets for it when the time comes? Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I've got a slant six in my 1980 Diplomat coupe and I am looking at buying a low mile (29,000) 318/904 combo to swap in it. The slant six, the V-8, and the Hemi. how much work to swap out the engine to the six?..am new to dodgesb so bear with me. Gen III HEMI Swap Shop. You can find a v-8 A body like yours, and whack the motor mounts out of it. So, in reality, the best thing to do then is to find a donor A body with the drive-train I want to ensure I have the correct parts to do the swap. Chrysler drilled the back side of crankshafts for a pilot bushing which the manual transmission input shaft slides into/rides on. I don't have my interchange manual at the house,it's at the shop, but any salvage yard worth a damn should be able to tell you if a bellhousing for a 318 and a six are the same. originally equipped with a Slant 6. Your transmission has a slant 6 bolt pattern, and so will only bolt to the 170/198/225 slant series of engines. When i did th swap on mine i used the slant 6 radiator. Top. View Details. Works on vehicleswith or without power steering. This makes engine swaps very easy, if you have a V-8 K-member. This is a popular area for discussion. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. I'm not familiar with slant-6 trucks, but the 318/360/400 & cummins all mount to the same suspension cross members. 426 Hemi, 440 Big Block, and 340 Small Block engine swap solutions for your classic Dodge, Chrysler, or Plymouth. The np 435 uses the 11" clutch, the A833 and A833OD use the 10.5" clutch. 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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Designed to put a V8 engine into cars originally equipped with a slant 6. Your source for V8 Dodge Magnum Engine Swap-related tech. JavaScript is disabled. Gives it a different feeling when driving. Connecting rods and pistons are going to be stock 225 pistons and rods. Swap out the K-member now, as it's only 4 bolts, some suspension removal and re-assembly, then bolt the V8 right in, stock or Schumacher mounts. When swapping out the engine in your hot rod, you need motor mounts and inserts that you can count on. This is the dimension on all transmissions. just find one with a318/360 and there is the rest of your brackets for conversion also.using the shumacker mounts on f body requires grinding on your 6 cyl k frame which it end ever reusing with a 6 again. They are hard to find and expansive if you can find them. 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Also I haven't bought anything for the swap just yet on account that I lack 2 of the 3 main things you need to do just about anything major to a car. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. The splines are the same.it may work or it may not. Also, aside from the standard motor mount changes, is there any differences mounting the small block tranny in place? It seems like a weird problem to have. Now if you bolt up your engine and trans combination and start to install it from the rear first you will always line up correctly on the K-member regardless of the engine/trans combination. I swapped my flathead 6 and powerflite with a 1964 model poly 318 and push button aluminum 727 in my 57 Plymouth. View All. Mainly to keep the car factory looking. Long term consists of making it fun while keeping it a daily. 10 Years or so ago, I helped a friend swap a slant 6 for a 318 on his 85 ram. I appreciate the support. ?- truck is a 68 w200 with a NP 435, hydraulic clutch, etc. Positions a Big Block 383, 400 or 440 engine to factory specs on your original Slant 6 '73 and up A, B, F, M, J-Body (and '74 & up C-Body) K-member while still retaining the bullet-proof quality of Chrysler originals. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Everyone who hasn't done it, thinks that a K-member swap looks intimidating It is really very simple and easy to do. S. 73 Roadrunner 318 w/ newer 440 swap. But I did need to reconfig my dipstick tube,,, that won't be an issue on a SB. . The distance on all transmissions from the crossmember mount to the front of the bellhousing or case is exactly 22.66 inches. The 318 and /6 radiator necks come out in different locations - so a radiator will be needed. Thanks! Page 1 of 1. I'm thinking about yanking the slant for a 318, but would like to keep the manual trans. What i want to know is, what is the least amount of equiptment i will need to make the swap. The price of radiators have gone up sense last time I looked. This swap is possible in a weekend if you have previously done it and so all the parts are right there. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . The 318 weighs less. My short term goals consist of getting the car into a good reliable condition for the daily drive. slant 6 to 318 conversion. I would like to know what all will and will not be needed in order to do so. The engine I have found is from a 2001 . Never had an issue with heat. You can actually swap to a V8 K frame and bolt in a V8 with factory parts. Ten miles per gallon seems about right for that combination. You are using an out of date browser. banditluda Active Member Joined Sep 24, 2014 Messages 26 . Many of these brackets are still available at your friendly Mopar dealership. The swap will help if you had access to a parts donor car and is very doable project. Schumacher Creative Services, Inc. 951.440.8340 by Hobcobble Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:15 pm, Post Set includes: Engine mount brackets Engine mounts Hardware Made in USA Note: Motor mount conversion only; other parts required to complete conversion. Those big engines with tall intakes, do need a longer cable. thanks John 273 / 318 to 340 /360 Slant 6 to Big Block Slant 6 to Small Block . Engine pulleys and brackets (front of engine), Throttle cable(*) and Radiator is a maybe. Don't know if that 3-speed will bolt up to a V8 bellhousing. Somebody please list out the parts needed so I can start buying. Six cylinder conversions will require the change to the V-8 K-member. Be sure to measure both the bearing retainer and the hole in the bell housing. Used Magnum engines are readily available, and . NOTE: The driver's side mounting perch on the '73 & Up K-member interferes with any V8 block and B/RB oil pump. Floor humps for each tranny are different. The slant six, the V-8, and the Hemi. The /6 and 318 transmission cooler lines will be bent differently. All said and done, it's a pretty straight forward swap. If I remember correctly the cable gets a gentle loop with a turn to the carb, I can't imagine using a shorter cable. It's not what you buy, it's what you build. The Super Coupe stays as my gas guzzling summer car. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. He got a V8 parts car and got the k-frame and disc brakes from it. 318 swap? 2. The slant six transmissions are different from the v-8 ones, as well as the small block trannys are different from the big block ones. You must log in or register to reply here. To do the swap you need to cut out the 6cyl frame mounts and weld in V8 frame mounts from a donor car or make your own. by Daddiojoe Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:28 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, **OPEN TECHNICAL HELP FOR ALL SWEPTLINE MODELS AND PROBLEMS**, My 318 is a tired- am considering swapping into the truck a 225 slant six- how much work?? Free shipping. As far as the trans is concerned I have already done my homework on the transfer of the a230 into an A833od trans but that will also be part of my long term goal.