Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. The identity of one of his victims, who was found near Horseshoe lake north of Anchorage has never been established and now her remains are being exhumed. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. (inaudible) FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) FLOTHE: Youre pointing at Figure Number 21. He was 75 years old. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. Black or brown? Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. And if Im not mistaken I think he got green or blue eyes. Ducks and birds. They look at them in a very specific way. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. People either loved it or they hated it. He joined the ADN in 2004. This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? Other times, he would let the women go free in the wilderness and then hunt them with his rifle. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? CINDY: The automatic opener. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. FLOTHE: How did you know this? Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walker's suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? I overslept. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. FLOTHE: Uh huh. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? 2022 Anchorage Daily News. He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. Glenn Flothe, AST. That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. FLOTHE: The same person. Im not going to help you do that, all right? FLOTHE: Friday morning. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. CINDY: Yep. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? Were the lights on or off? CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. FLOTHE: Ah. Okay. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? CINDY: It was a black The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. I operated behind a work persona. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. CINDY: Uh huh. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. So he shows up Sunday night, then. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. FLOTHE: Thank you. OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. Police soon picked the killer up for questioning, but when it came down to it, a mild mannered baker with a rap sheet was still more believable in the early eighties than a half naked, handcuffed and barefooted teenaged sex worker. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. Same with the two sexual assaults; I have an arrest date of December 1971, but as for the date of the crimes or whether he was arrested for both at the same time (which I assume to be the case) is unclear. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. Purchase Butcher, Baker, Your email address will not be published. Glenn Flothe, AST. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. Learn how your comment data is processed. "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. Thats why he did it. "Good riddance to him.". The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. CINDY: Yep. The security guard at that time FLOTHE: Um hmm. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. And I said, Fine, no problem.. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. And so I gave him my telephone number And he was going To be frank, honest, I was asking him for change for a cigarette machine. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? There was a bullet hole in the floor. It was smooth. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. Normally, people try avoiding that. FLOTHE: Either he had opened it or it was already open? Glenn Flothe, AST. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Robert claimed that the teen was trying to blackmail him; he convinced a buddy to give him an alibi, and that was that. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. (pause) You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). Hudgens: Were shooting for either late December or the beginning of next year. (inaudible). REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. FLOTHE: Number five. FLOTHE: How did you know that? After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. And he suggested that we could go to his place. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. I mean Like a station wagon. John Paulson. Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. Maybe they were different frames. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? He pulled over and I recognized him immediately. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. This looks black but its actually blue. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. CINDY: All right. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. She had been engaging in sex work. 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FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. Then they would meet. Your email address will not be published. Im not involved though. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. CINDY: Tons Hes amazing. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. I absolutely adore him. CINDY: It was a really dark color. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. Its way down on the bottom. (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. Required fields are marked *. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. CINDY: Uh huh. Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? He died in prison last month aged 75. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. FLOTHE: About what time? Glenn Flothe, AST. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. FLOTHE: And about what time was that? He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. He was convicted of just four of the murders in a deal that spared him having to go to trial 17 times. He used it to stab her in the back, he said. What was your reaction when you first read the script? And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. Darla was an exceptionally intelligent woman with a masters degree in education who made her living by tutoring school children; she was also a devout Christian who believed in God and the sanctity of marriage with all of her heart and soul. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? CINDY: No. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! The others were never located. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. Do not sell or share my personal information. Then on the night, and when this I guess, really began, uh, I met her up town after, well, on the Saturday, CINDY:(Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. My left wrist, right there Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. The Butcher Baker Minisode. FLOTHE: OK. Glenn Flothe, AST. Every time it was in my face. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Hansen owned a bakery in a downtown mini mall and lived across town with his wife and children, who knew nothing of his double life. No comments have so far been submitted. CINDY: On. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? We all have the same needs. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. One of my greatest aspirations is to change the entire industry, creating a space that embraces the full range of potential and diversity that humans bring.. CINDY: No. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. What are your thoughts on the reception to Spring Breakers? CINDY: Um hmm. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. CINDY: Some times they were. It left me wanting to watch it over and over again even though Im in it. Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. CINDY: In jeans. CINDY: Thats it. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. Be sure and look at all six. CINDY: Same. She was hysterical, half-clothed, and had an unbelievable story of survival to tell. What made you want to do it? Required fields are marked *. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. CINDY: Yep. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. CINDY: Uh huh. He was also an avid hunter. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. It was a red scar CINDY: Yep. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. And brown socks. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. CINDY: A little moustache. Her name is Cindy Paulson. FLOTHE: And he contacts you at where? (pause) CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. Yes, Cindy Paulson is a real person, and as shown in the movie, she was one of the many women who were abducted by Robert Hansen. We just want her to be identified.'. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Like a little Datsun station wagon. 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